Are You Having A Nail Dip Powder Allergic Reaction?

NAIL DIP POWDER ALLERGIC REACTION

9/22/2019

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This post has been updated based on the comments of the ladies who experienced the same issue. I have now included not only ways to keep yourself allergy free if you continue to dip at home, but also an alternative that a lot of people have had success with, giving them the strength of dip nails without the awful reaction to the bonding liquids. (read more)

NAIL DIP POWDER ALLERGIC REACTION VIDEO

If you'd like to watch me talk about this instead of reading it, here's a video. I'm sick in the first part, and I need to point out that this sickness (allergy) seems to get progressively worse for me. So, if you're suffering with this, please take it seriously.

I'm not great at painting my nails, but I always thought it was because I never took the time to get good at it. After all, nail polish on me lasts a few days at best, a few hours at worst, so it wasn't (and still isn't) worth the time or effort. Also, I have a thumbnail that has apparently been injured at some point in my life because when it gets even slightly longer than my nail bed it cracks right down the middle. It snags on everything and can be quite painful if the crack gets too deep.

When I discovered "dipping" in my local nail salon, I was over the moon. It was the first time any nail polish had the ability to stay on for an extended period (forever, until I take it off) and strengthen my thumbnail enough to keep it from cracking.

That was a few years ago, and I've been getting my nails dipped ever since.

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So when I saw the Peppi Gel ads start popping up in my Facebook news feed, I was intrigued. If I could do this at home I could save myself a lot of money. Some quick math told me that I was spending about $1500 a year getting my nails done. That was with getting my hands done every three weeks, my toes done three or four times a year, and tipping each time I go.

I can paint my toenails at home, that's never been a problem, but I figured since I was at the salon anyway, I might as well have them take care of it.

Peppi Gel advertised a starter kit for $64.99 on their website, so it didn't take much convincing for me to get on board. I had already purchased a different brand of dipping powder kit (we'll talk about that further down), but I was so impressed with the Peppi Gel support group that I just really wanted to be a part of their clan. I made my purchase and waited eagerly for my kit to come in.

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At this point I had already ordered the Kiara Sky French Starter Kit on Amazon (I have a problem with waiting for regular mail, so the two day Amazon Prime thing really floats my boat) and applied my first at home dip. It turned out really nice, and I was very happy with the product. Still, I liked the Peppi group on Facebook a lot, so I was pretty certain I'd be switching over if Peppi was half as good.

Here was my first Kiara Sky dip. You'd never know I didn't have it done in a salon.

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ALLERGIC TO DIP POWDER NAILS

Anyhow, the big day came, my Peppi Gel kit arrived, and I quickly removed my old manicure and got ready to apply a gorgeous orange manicure with a really pretty gold accent nail.

The directions were easy to understand, and application went smoothly, no problems at all. It wasn't until later than night that I started to feel unwell, and it wasn't until two applications later that I realized the reason I was feeling so bad was because I was having an allergic reaction to dip nails.

Your symptoms may be different than mine, but here's what my allergic reaction to dip powder looked like for me:

* Onset of symptoms within 6-8 hours of application
* Irritated lungs, cough, mucus
* A lot (I mean abnormally so) of sneezing, snot, etc.
* Watery/itchy eyes
* Headache
* Lethargy
* Just in general feeling miserable

And, since I am asthmatic, it also meant I began having asthma attacks even though I generally use my inhaler only once or twice a year.

Still, I didn't put two and two together. I figured there was something in the air or that I was getting sick. I grabbed my bottle of Zinc lozenges and started taking them every four hours to ward off whatever bug I seemed to have contracted. What I did NOT think was that I was allergic to dip powder.

Turns out, it's not the powder.

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After three days, the symptoms went away and I forgot all about it until a couple of weeks later when I removed my manicure and put on a new one. I did another french manicure, this time still using the Kiara Sky powder that came with the starter kit, but using the binding agents that came in my Peppi Gel kit.

Once again, it went without a hitch, the manicure looked great, and I was happy. Until that night, when once again my allergic reaction to dip nails reared its ugly head, and I got extremely sick. If anything, I felt worse than the last time, and I spent three days feeling miserable. Still, I didn't equate the manicure with the illness.

A few more weeks went by and I once again removed the manicure so I could do my nails for a Disney trip my mother and I were taking. I had some super cute overlays I'd purchased on Etsy, and I covered those with a clear powder from Kiara Sky and used Peppi's binding agents once again.

The nails turned out adorable, and I got sick, two days before my trip. By now the dip nail allergy was becoming very apparent.

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This time, something clicked in my brain. I went to the Peppi group and did a search for "allergy". Turns out, there are a ton of women in there who have the same problem. You'll see all sorts of search terms when you Google it, as well:

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They're all listed, and more. Apparently this is a fairly common occurance.

While I wasn't in love with the idea of using Peppi anymore, I did really want to see if their suggestions worked, so I committed myself to trying some of their fixes for the problem.

First off, I purchased a mask, a particle mask, just in case I was being bothered by the powder and not the binders. It looked like something you'd wear while doing some heavy duty work on your house, tearing up sheetrock or something. It wasn't a big expense, easily purchased on Amazon, and I figured if I didn't end up using them, my husband could use them while mowing the lawn.

I will say this mask helped a little. I still got sick, but it was much less severe and lasted only a day or two. Still, I didn't want to get sick at all, so I went a little further.

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The next mask I purchased was exactly like the ones I'd seen the nail techs use at my local salon. I looked through the reviews and actually saw some ladies comment that they purchased the mask to use while dipping their nails, and that it did keep them from getting sick.

I got a mask like this, which was good quality and came with 6 filters which were easily tucked into the mask whenever one needed to be changed. If that link doesn't work, please let me know in the comments below. It does happen that the stuff I use sells out (especially with COVID), so I'll update here with a new link if I know the old one isn't working.

I looped it over my ears, went to my well ventilated room, turned on a fan, and got to work.

Six hours later, my chest was feeling a bit irritated, but only about 10% as much as without the mask. I still sneezed for a couple of days, but it was nothing like before. Perhaps, were I not asthmatic, I wouldn't be so sensitive to it, but I am, and it is what it is.

I really wanted no symptoms at all after doing my nails, so once again I went back to the Peppi group.

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Their last suggestion was a full on gas mask, I'll post a picture below, but you probably already know what I'm talking about. Not a mask that will remove some fumes and particles, but a mask that is meant to filter all fumes, complete with cartridges that you can replace, etc.

I'm going to be honest, I don't want to wear something like this while I do my nails, but I want even less to go back to the salon, because dipping at home just saves me SO MUCH money.

I don't have the gas mask yet, it'll be here in a day or so, and I'll update this post once I've used it.

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Half-Face Gas Mask

Well, this was my last ditch effort, obviously. I'm not sure there's any way to get more filtration for the air I was breathing while dipping my nails. The mask worked great, fabulous, no issues AT ALL.

It was very easy to breathe in, which was my biggest concern. I didn't find it claustrophobic or stuffy. So, in a nutshell, it worked.

But, there are cons, of course. First and foremost, this thing is large and cumbersome. It leaves a mark on your face, you have to make sure it's tight and that the gasket is sealed.

Second, you have to buy refill cartridges every 40 hours or so. If a manicure takes you an hour, this mask will last a long time, but you will need to buy refills.

You can also wear safety goggles to protect your eyes, or you can purchase a full face mask if you prefer to get it done all at once. I do not recommend safety glasses since there is no seal and they would not protect your eyes from the fumes that are causing the problem.

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PEPPI GEL ALTERNATIVES

You may or may not have the exact same reaction to other products. When I wrote this post, I could have sworn I was symptom free on my first dip, which was with Kiara Sky. However, after I wrote the post and went to verify that I really did not have an allergic reaction to Kiara Sky, I did my nails with their powder and binders, without any face mask at all, and I am currently as sick as I have ever been.

That said, if you're going to dip at home (while taking the correct precautions) and you're looking for a Peppi Gel alternative, let me recommend Kiara Sky. It's a great product, with the bonus that you can purchase the kits and powders on Amazon with free two day shipping and easy returns. The manicure looks great, and I like that they include a brush saving liquid and a cuticle oil in the kit as well. If you get the French Manicure kit, it also comes with a dipping tray so you can make perfect smile lines.

For me, the biggest difference in Kiara Sky vs Peppi Gel is that Kiara Sky is much more user friendly. Peppi Gel has a list about a mile long of things you need to do exactly in order to get a good manicure and not screw up your brushes. Kiara Sky isn't like that, and still delivers, which means less of a headache for me.

Apparently, no matter what I do I'm going to be wearing a half-face gas mask, so I may as well use the product that has less of a learning curve.

They offer a few different starter kits, from french to colors, and they have a great group on Facebook that regularly offers tutorials and has moderators that are quick to answer questions.

So, if you are having a Peppi Gel allergy and you're looking for an alternative, definitely check out Kiara Sky. Maybe you'll get lucky and you won't be allergic to another brand.

There's the color starter kit.

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Here's the French Manicure Starter Kit.

NAIL DIP ALTERNATIVES
GEL NAILS WITH DIP POWDER

Many of our readers have switched over to another system that lets them continue to use their dip powders, but eliminates the need for the bonding liquids that so many of us are certain is causing these terrible reactions.

I'll post a video here and then link to the items she uses. This is not my video, so I encourage you to reach out to her, leave comments, etc. if you have any questions.

Sadly, until my shattered elbow is fully healed and I have my range of motion back, doing my nails at home is a no go.

Here is the video Kate made. In the next section I will list the things she used so you can decide if this is a method you'd like to try.

Everything I've read tells me that this method does not give you an allergic reaction, but by all means, if you do wind up having allergies with this method, please comment and let me know.

GEL NAILS WITH DIP POWDER

Here are the items Kate used in order to get her lovely, strong nails. Please note that you can use your existing dip powder. She uses clear in this video, but you can definitely use any color you like, using a clear gel at the end instead of using a colored gel.

UV Light - You'll need this to cure your nails for 30 seconds in between coats. This one has a 45s and 60s timer, as opposed to 30s, but it's inexpensive and I like the brand Melody Susie.

File Stick - This is a handy tool to really get the cuticle area and edges of your nails filed without being encumbered by a large nail file.

Antibacterial Spray - You can use this or wash your hands with something like Blue Dawn, but the spray is probably easier.

Lint Free Wipes - Use these to wipe down your nails after you use the antibacterial spray so you can be sure you've gotten all the dust particles off.

Nail Dehydrator and Nail Primer - This box comes with both a dehydrator that will make sure your nails are oil free, and a primer. These two steps will let your manicure last as long as possible.

Gel Base Coat and Gel Top Coat - This box comes with both a base coat and top coat, letting you use your existing dip nail powders while still achieving a strong, shiny finish.

Cuticle Pusher - Used to scoop up the powder and pour over your nails. You will not want to dip your nails with this method since the dipping can mar the base coat, creating bumps and ripples. If you already have a nail care kit, you probably have one of these in that kit.

I'll also post a button below that will take you to this entire list.

GEL NAILS WITH DIP POWDER LIST

A FEW OTHER THINGS

These are a few things that make my at home dip manicures easier, so I thought I'd share them.

First up, a small Melody Susie nail drill. This is great for smoothing out your dip coats before applying your shine, and is also quite good for new dippers who get too close to the cuticle. It makes clean up easy and helps your nails look fantastic.

And, at under $20, it's a great price.

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These Dashing Diva nail guards are a life saver. You put them on after you lightly buff and prep your nail, then apply the dip/gel over the nail guard. When it's time to remove the nail guard, you simply push up an edge, apply a little bit of adhesive remover, and pop the dip off your nail.

You do not ever buff the nail guard. Prep as you would your nail, apply the guard, then start your nail process on top of the nail guard, beginning at your post prep routine.

This saves you from having to use acetone, ever. No more cotton balls, baggies, sticky fingers and endless wait times. I'll post a video below of me putting the nail guards on, and one of me removing my nail guards. It's simple.

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Applying the nail guards is simple and takes much less time than you'd spend removing your dip nails with acetone. Removal is also simple. I demonstrate both in this video.

I hate that you're having a nail dip powder allergic reaction like I was, and I really hope this post has helped you with some ideas to fix it, or alternatives, if you're just allergic to home dip nails in general.

If you've gotten through this entire article, done what you could, and still decided dipping was just not for you (either at home or in the salons), and you'd like to try and get your natural nails in good shape, I recommend Hard As Hoof. I've been using it for a month or so since COVID came to town (and I have a broken arm from Snowboarding in February), and it has been amazing. My nails are much stronger and no longer paper thin.

If you have any questions, please let me know. I'm happy to help if I can.

Ty

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Tiffany

9/27/2019 12:41:52 am

I found this by googling 'allergic reaction to dip powder' as I have been expecting I'm suffering from it myself. It has became too coincidental that after (usually starts up during the service) I do a set of dip nails, my chest hurts, throat is dry and scratchy and I have a hard time breathing. I've never had allergies or dealt with asthma so it just seemed weird to me. However I've never used the peppi brand. I use kiara sky and I'm a licensed nail tech also. So it's not just the other brand you were using. It's possible it's just something in the chemicals in all the products.

Sheila (Ty The Hunter)

9/27/2019 06:44:38 am

Hey Tiffany, thanks for sharing your experience. If you see this reply and don't mind replying, I have questions. Have you just started doing dip nails or did the reaction just start up even though you'd been doing them for awhile? I didn't have the reaction with Kiara Sky, but I have heard that some people have the reaction to one type and not the other. The next time I do mine, I'll use Kiara Sky again just to verify that I didn't have a reaction last time. If I do have one though, I might have to go back to the salon or buy one of those rubber gas masks.

Sara

10/2/2019 10:16:47 am

I thought it was just me. I'm so tired of feeling these asthma attacks. And the husband is already tired of me getting sick after every mani I do that he's about to throw it all away. I've only used Bio-Seaweed Dip Powder system, and I get all the same symptoms after. I've used a mask and a dust collector and still same result. Seems that I'm getting worse every time I use it. I'm so sad at this point. Will try one more time. This time with a mask, dust collector, fan and immediate shower after. Hopefully it all goes away because I really love my new nails.

10/2/2019 11:17:40 am

Hey Sara, I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I got a half face gas mask (the kind I posted about in the post) and I’ll be trying it the next time I do my nails. I’ve heard that it eliminates these symptoms, so I have hope. I really don’t want to go back to spending that salon money. I’ll definitely update once I’ve used it. I hope it works for you!

sara m

7/10/2020 03:17:25 pm

I am having the exact same problem with bioseeweed. ive spent so much money on the products now and i cant use any of them my allergy to it has gotten so bad

10/10/2020 06:55:00 am

Hey Sara, did you end up trying the alternative method in the post that eliminates the binders but still allows you to use the powders?

Maddi

10/13/2019 11:44:54 pm

Okay, I seriously thought this was only me... I have been using Kiara Sky dipping powder for about 3 months now. Every single time I get extremely irritated. It starts in my chest it feels wheezy. Then the coughing starts and there is no end. I get to the point where I almost cannot breathe. After drinking water and taking an Allegra the worse part of the symptoms go away after about an hour. It’s terrifying but it’s so convenient to dip at home and my nails always turn out so good. I know for a fact it’s the Kiara Sky brand because I used the Quik Dip brand from Sally’s last time and I had no reaction. I also develop a rash on my neck and chest while I’m coughing.

10/13/2019 11:48:35 pm

The even crazier part is when I use to get them done at the salon it never irritated me and it was Kiara Sky that I got there too. Must be something at home I’m doing wrong

10/14/2019 07:35:01 am

Hey Maddi! I think you're right about it being different at home. I also never had any problems at the salon, and I am sure it must be using the same chemicals as Kiara Sky and Peppi Gel. I've had a severe reaction to both. I know that the nail techs at my salon wear those cloth masks like I mentioned in the post (the one with the stars on it), so they must also get bothered by the chemicals. Maybe it's that we're further away? Also, I don't know about your salon, but mine always has a fan on the table that's blowing away from me, out into the main area. I guess distance and ventilation play a big part. The half face gas mask will definitely do the trick, you just have to get past how bulky it is. I hope it works for you! If you read this, and if you find something that works, please come back and update me. :)

Jane

12/8/2019 10:29:24 pm

This is exactly what I experience with Kiara Sky. And I say this with a fresh mani and a relentless cough as I write this. I tried using a plain mask which didn’t really help so next time, I hope to try using the filter mask and see if that helps. I think the dust from the filing (not even the powder application) is the culprit for me but I can’t be sure.

12/9/2019 05:50:19 am

Hey Jane, I really hope the mask helps. I wish there were a way to be sure if it were the particles or the fumes, but either way the half face gas mask will help, at least it did for me. Good luck!

Sigourney

11/10/2019 04:07:15 am

Thank you so much for posting your story. I could not find anywhere else where somebody had similar symptoms like this.
I purchased a dip kit from walmart and used it 5 times now. The last time i used it however i have been experiencing severe runny nose, watery eyes and sneezing like nobody beleives! Never in my life had a cold or allergies been that bad. Now this most recent time used, symptoms were worse!
I did my nails at night on a friday. Somewhere around 3am i woke up with a violent cough and burning in my lungs. I was scared. Later that morning the sneezing and waterfall-like nose running followed. This time i was convinced it was either the new powder i purchased or the fumes from the dip system.

11/10/2019 07:21:59 am

Hey Sigourney! That's awful! I'm glad you've figured out what it is. I hope you're able to get some relief so you can keep dipping them at home.

Brooke

3/13/2020 06:42:15 am

I have used the nail dipping kit from Walmart and everytime I use it I have an allergic reaction to the product. Sneezing, runny nose like crazy, cough and itchy skin and eyes. I thought it was just me. But I have tried the red carpet system from ulta and no reaction. The system from ulta is more expensive but I'm convinced that it is worth the money. Feeling this horrible after using cheap walmart dips is not worth it!

3/13/2020 07:59:04 am

Brooke, thanks for posting this, it's good to know. Hopefully other people see this and give it a shot. Maybe there's something different in Ulta's chemical makeup that doesn't cause the same reaction. And really, even if it were more expensive, in the long term that cost is so slight per manicure, worth it to not have to deal with the allergy!

Shonna link

11/4/2020 10:39:28 pm

So have you used the system from ulta with your old powders? I’m curious to know if all my powders are the issues or if they are o.k. and I just need to swap my bases/ activators aka polishes!!!

11/5/2020 07:05:47 am

Hey Shonna! I hope this reply ends up in the right place. Sorry if you have to go searching for it. I have not personally used my powders with the UV system, having shattered my elbow while snowboarding back in February. Between the surgeries and limited range of motion, I had to head back to the salon. That said, a few women on here have ditched the bonders, switched to UV, and had no more dip flu. Hopefully some of them will see this and reply to you as well. I hope that helps!

Shonna

11/5/2020 10:20:41 pm

After lots of research, it seems that methyl methacrylate (MMA) is the culprit. It has quite a few different mechanisms of triggering an immune response and why it can cause lung/ sinus irritation as well as contact dermatitis on other areas. This chemical is in almost all base coats/ top coats for dip powders. The powders I think are pretty safe, but I suspect filing at a dried nail can cause layers of that MMA in the sealant that haven't completely hardened to irritate you, so it is not the powder per se causing the irritating, but the nail dust totally can because of the presence of the MMA. I also think it is possible that your powders CAN become contaminated since you are dipping them into the jar with wet nails from the base coat containing MMA that was wet...and MMA does must of its irritating before it hardens. After it hardens, it is fairly safe. This is a carcinogen that has been well known in other trades for years to have very negative effects, all of which we have discussed here... so mind you, these companies knew that this could happen to us. ARGH.

Talia

11/19/2019 04:13:23 pm

I'm so glad I came across this article. I have experienced all the same symptoms you all have mentioned. The last time my symptoms were so sever I removed the dip and haven't done my nails in about 2 months now. I absolutely loved the way my nails looked and I'd like to give it one more try. Guess I'll be purchasing the mask you suggested. I already had a dust mask and I was still getting sick. I was wondering if maybe you should cover your eyes with safety glasses like some of the nail techs wear?

11/20/2019 05:52:43 am

Hey Talia, I'm SO sorry you're dealing with this, it really is a terrible feeling. The 3M gas mask will work for sure. As for the eyes, I think you'd have to have maybe a full face gas mask to keep the fumes from getting in. I didn't try that, but the itchiness in my eyes seemed to go away once I was no longer breathing in the fumes. That said, I wouldn't want to buy two masks, so if you want to keep your eyes protected, I'd get a full face, just to be sure. I hope you're able to get back to dipping at home.

11/20/2019 06:55:42 am

Thanks again for all the info. I'll be trying again this week. I'll keep you posted. I've been researching this for months now. I was starting to think I was the only one experiencing this until I came across your post.

Michelle Rearick

12/2/2019 06:09:29 am

I too am having a reaction. I used NuGensis products and the allergy developed overtime. It gets worse if I leave the nails on. Exposure to the chemicals I guess. Have you tried removing the dip to see if that makes a difference for you? I can’t see putting myself through this even with a mask. I’m going to get a home UV light and try gel polish. Since my symptoms seem to be worse with the nails on.

12/2/2019 09:12:08 am

Hey Michelle, I haven't had an issue with dip on my nails, but I definitely wouldn't mess with it if you're dealing with that. It sounds awful. :( UV polish is great, it can last a couple of weeks.

Teresa

12/10/2019 11:49:58 pm

I am so glad I came across this post! I have also experienced allergic reactions and not being able to breath through my nose for 2-3 days after I do my dip manicure. But this only started after the second time I dipped my nails. I’m a licensed cosmetologist and have been experiencing it on myself before I try it on clients. I’ve used Nugenesis and Gelish dipping systems and have allergic reaction to both. I’ve tried to double mask without success. But I will order me a gas mask and try. Also, my eyes have slightly burned when applying the dip liquids. However, I went to a nail salon and had my nails dipped using Nugenesis and it didn’t bother me. So it must be the distance you are from the liquid when it’s applied to your nails.

12/11/2019 05:44:25 am

Hey Teresa, I am SO sorry you're dealing with this, especially as a cosmetologist. I think you're totally right, though, it's the distance from the product. I had my nails dipped for years and never had any trouble at all. And, just like you, I didn't experience any ill effects until I'd dipped my own a couple of times. I hope the gas mask works for you.

Leanne Koehnen

12/12/2019 12:43:44 pm

I can really relate to your story. I decided to try dip nails because of a slit in my thumb nail that just would’t grow out. I used the Kiss dip Kit that I purchased at Target. I was so I’ll afterward. Runny, sticky, stuffed up nose. I couldn’t breath. It was very scary. I can’t believe I tried to do my nails a second time a couple weeks later. (I did a fill.) This time I used a mask and I still got sick. Not as bad as the first time, but enough for me to say no thank you to dip powder nails.These products are not safe. I’m so glad I found this thread.

12/12/2019 12:53:12 pm

Hey Leanne,

I have the same thing, that slit in my nail. It's the whole reason I dip my nails, so I get it. Truly, if you're experiencing this stuff you either have to quit or get a full on gas mask so you aren't breathing it in. For those of us with allergies, it's a bad, bad thing. I am glad you figured out that it's just not for you.

Monica

12/12/2019 03:25:21 pm

Thank you for your post! I am ordering the gas mask right now.

My reaction started as just about everyone else's did after the second application. I used a Rossi Glam Powder Kit and went to bed. Around 2 a.m. I woke up coughing severely, wheezing, and had horrible overall congestion. I rushed to take a Benadryl and used a steroid nasal spray. I honestly thought I was having an allergic reaction to my dog but I've never had allergies like this before! After 24 hours passed, I was back to normal with my gorgeous nails (not putting two and two together that I could have been reacting to the manicure).

Two weeks later, after removing the old manicure and putting on a new color of dip powder, I had the same reaction but this time it was within 2 hours of the application. I still have this color on because I am too scared to try to remove it. I am going to try the gas mask and I will have a Benadryl standing by just in case! Hope to have an update to share soon.

12/12/2019 03:40:50 pm

Hi Monica! That's what happened to me! I really thought I had no reaction the first time, but now I realize that it just took so long to show that I didn't connect the two. It got quicker and worse each time. I hope the mask helps!

Nicki

1/9/2020 10:39:57 pm

I have the EXACT symptoms you do! Mine develop 8 hours after. The sneezing is ridiculous!I It feels worse than a cold for a couple days, then on the third day it starts getting better in the evening.
I have a lot of Revel powder and it's my favorite, but even with the mask I was still getting sick. I had the salon do SNS and I kept my face away. My symptoms aren't as severe, but I don't want to get sick at all! I wondered if it was the binders and base so my next move was to use liquid nail monomer, but I think I'll get the gas mask if you are symptom free after using it.

THANK YOU!

Best regards,
Nicki

1/10/2020 06:16:46 am

Hey Nicki,

Let me know how changing the binders works. Do you just buy new binders on Amazon or at Sally's? I don't know much about it. The gas mask (half face or full face) works wonders, no more symptoms, so I hope it works the same for you. Be sure to tighten it so the seal doesn't have any gaps. Come back once you've done a set and update me if you get a chance.

I hope it helps!
Sheila

1/10/2020 12:26:59 pm

I do buy my binders and primer at Sally's. They work with the different dips the same as far as my experience. I buy my dips on Amazon. I love Revel, but it's not the only brand I've used.

I ordered the mask and it'll be here tomorrow; I will let you know how it goes in a couple weeks when I redo my nails. Right now I'm still sick from the manicure I got at the salon with SNS.

One tip I picked up on in the salon is when you use heavy glitter dip, do an extra coat or two of clear dip and it won't take SOOOOOO long to smooth the nail out.

Maybe in a couple manicures I'll try using the monomer with the dip powder. I watched a young nails presentation on it on You Tube. He said you have a minute to work and shape it. It is faster than doing 3 or 4 coats of dip, plus you can add shape to a chipped nail. No base, no activator... Just monomer, shape/file, and top coat.

I'll let you know!

Take care!
Nicki

Patty

1/17/2020 09:24:04 am

I’m also allergic to Kiara products. The mask you suggested really helps. But I was wondering is there product that better than Kiara that’s won’t produce allergic reaction?Thanks

1/17/2020 11:09:44 am

Hey Patty, I've only used Kiara Sky and Peppi, but the other commenters have mentioned a half dozen others that all give them allergic reactions. It may be that not all make you react, personally, but I haven't found one that everyone agrees doesn't cause a reaction. If you find one, please come back and let me know.

Thanks!
Sheila

Laura

1/20/2020 10:24:19 am

Oh my! Thank you so much for this post. For weeks, I have been thinking that I was going crazy. I just started doing my own dip nails. I've been getting them done for 2 years with no issues at the salon. I am using the Red Carpet Hollywood kit from Ulta and a kit from Walmart. Both times I have done them, I get extremely asthmatic an hour or so afterwards and experience flu like symptoms for DAYS. This time, the runny nose was so bad it caused a sever sinus infection that required antibiotics. I kept putting it off thinking that it was "flu" season, but last night I redid my nails and immediately felt the effects all over again - after being well for 5 days! I REALLY don't want to go back to the salon. But I cannot stand the thought of getting sick once a month like this. It was so bad last night that I started to have a panic attack on top of the asthma attack. I may try the mask, but if it doesnt work, I will have to go back to regular polish or just buckle down and spend the money at the salon. Ugh!

1/25/2020 05:35:02 pm

Hey Laura, I could have sworn I replied to this, sorry about that! The half face mask does work great, but it is bulky. You get used to it after a few times. I hope it works for you.

Angela

1/25/2020 07:11:00 am

I’m so glad I found your post! I am relieved to see I’m not the only one having this experience. The last three times I’ve gone to the nail salon for dip powder, I’ve reacted with sneezing, congestion, coughing, tightening of the throat and itching.
The first time it happened, I thought I was having an allergic reaction to food and went to the emergency room! They said I was having a histamine reaction and I was giving steroids and antihistamine.

I’ve used both OPI and Kiera Sky products. I love the way my nails look, but at this point, I just don’t think it’s worth it and I’m not going to wear a gas mask to my local salon. Ha!

Again, thank you all for sharing your stories and for this informative conversation.

1/25/2020 05:39:03 pm

Hi Angela, I'm sorry to hear this is happening to you at the salon, that's really awful. I wouldn't be able to bring myself to wear a gas mask at the salon either. Nice nails are not worth your health, that's for sure.

Julia

2/3/2020 05:04:37 am

Wow this has been so helpful!! I thought I would have to stop using my dip kit. I didn’t connect the dots until about 10 manicures later🤦🏻‍♀️ I can’t believe how toxic the chemicals are and how much of an effect it has had on me. I’m sick as we speak because I used my kit yesterday. Im purchasing everything you recommended because this is nothing to joke about. I’m also so curious about the nail guard. I had no idea that existed! As for the Uni-solve is that how to take the nail guard off? Thank you so much for all this info. Seriously thought it was only me and that I was crazy for thinking it was my dip kit making me sick

2/3/2020 05:37:21 am

Hey Julia! I was the same way, not connecting the dots for more time than I'd have liked. I'm glad you figured it out. Yes, the unisolve is how you take the nail guard off. If you have an orange stick or the flat end of a nail tool, you just wedge it beneath the dip & nail guard and pry it up a little bit then put a drop of unisolve there and gently compress the nail a few times. That'll get it started. By the time you've done that to all ten nails you're ready to start removing them. I hope the mask helps you as much as it helped me and that you're totally done dealing with this allergy!

Sheila

2/17/2020 10:21:05 am

Hello, I was wondering since so many of us is allergic to the dip nail system could it be as bad for us as if we smoked? I do use a gas mask but sill have some reaction when I do my nails. With all the coughing and congestion can it affect our lungs like smoke does? Just asking, thanks

2/17/2020 01:52:07 pm

Hey Patty, I have had this discussion with myself quite a few times. No matter how I slice it, I can't see how breathing any of this in is a good thing for those of us having a reaction. I'm not sure how it would affect the lungs, but I definitely think limiting exposure as much as possible is the best idea.

11/4/2020 10:52:13 pm

So I didn’t realize until a few manis later, as with many of us, that this was the culprit. Let me preface by saying I’m an RN. I went to the doctor in tears bc I was so sick and I thought I had COVID, but tested negative. The doc said my lung sounds on lower lobes of my lungs were very diminished as did the nurse practitioner. My oxygen saturation was fine but they wanted to get a chest x ray since my lung sounds were so diminished when auscultating. The x-ray was fine (mind you tho, vision is limited on x-rays vs. CT scans and other imaging) but they did prescribe me an inhaler at that time, which did help. So there’s definitely an effect on the lungs. I have listened to many lungs as an RN, and many smokers’ lungs have even sounded fine and they are older (I’m 29, healthy weight, no medical issues, fairly active). So it definitely does something. I think it’s probably an accumulation of mucous and inflammation draining ending up at the bottom of my lungs (b/c my cough and chest discomfort is much higher up in my throat and around my sternum). But allergic and histamine reactions cause a lot of fluid leaking from vessels, so I think I’m not getting as much air exchange in my lower lobes (the fact that their are lower makes sense bc gravity, so fluid or pneumonia always start in lower lobes first). I’m certain it is probably extremely bad for us... I’ve never been as sick in my entire life as these manis make me. Not ever. And I don’t really have bad allergies and asthma at baseline.

Megan

2/29/2020 06:34:38 am

This sounds extreme, but has anyone tried using the gas mask and doing your nails outdoors? My concern is that even if I use a gas mask, that the fumes will linger in the air inside my home.

2/29/2020 07:33:36 pm

Hey Megan. I don't think that sounds extreme at all. It's been a bit since I've done my nails at home since I broke my arm into a bunch of pieces while snowboarding, but I can tell you that I would open a window, put a fan in front of it (facing to the outside) and then I'd leave the room for as long as possible afterward. I definitely think the vapors can stay in the air, so even once you're done you could still have a reaction to the stuff left behind. If you can do it outside, that would probably be ideal.

Good luck!
Sheila

Alexandra

3/4/2020 03:44:43 am

I feel great that I'm not the only one with this issue. Even tho I don't do nails at home. I work on a nail salon and I am the other face of this situation. I barely get my nails done but I'm always doing people's nails cause dip powder is the new trend.

I started doing dip back in 2017 everything was fine until months later I started breaking out, might sound stupid but I didn't pay much attention to it and kept applying sunscreen. I got to say all this time I've wearing masks, gloves and even those constructor glasses. Long story short 2018 was a bad year dealing with this problem. I was breaking up on my entire face and hands arm every where. At first was rash but over time started looking like vitiligo. I had the white spots all over my hands and my face. On 2019 my partner and I decided that it was enough I quit my jod. I love love love doing nails but this product was a life risk for me. I gotta say yes we gotta say that this product is natural but reality is another story. If my friends would ask me about this product I wouldn't recommend it. Might not everyone's skin reacts as I did but this chemicals aren't good to breathe.

3/4/2020 06:19:37 am

Hey Alexandra. I often wonder about the ladies in my salon that sit there breathing this stuff in day in and day out. Now that I've broken my arm, I've been back to the salon since doing my own nails it out of the question, and I've noticed these industrial sized fans blowing toward the open door whenever possible. I hate to say it, but I do feel like the dip powder is going to get pulled from the shelves at some point because the health ramifications are impossible to ignore. I am so glad you changed professions. How long did it take for your issues to resolve?

Sharon Kirk -Iannelli

5/28/2020 04:33:20 pm

I have my license as a nail tech. I got it around twenty five years ago. In school as I started working with gels and acrylics I started to break out. My hands, my eyes, my arms. I tried everything to stop it. I made it through school then I got real bad. My doctor told me I had to give it up. I tried gel again around five years ago. Started to break out. It kills me. All the money I put in going to school. I didn't know about the dipping powder. I hoped maybe it would work for me. After reading the above I'm afraid. If anyone else has a stroke like me please let me know. Thank You

10/10/2020 06:56:14 am

Hey Sharon, were you able to try the alternative method in the post that doesn't have you use the binders but still lets you use your powders?

Denise

4/5/2020 07:43:48 pm

I started using peppi gel in February. At first I had no reaction to the product at all... It wasn't until the 6th manicure that I experienced the dip flu. I'm just so curious as to why I didn't have a reaction the first 5 times, I even did my daughter's too.

4/6/2020 05:33:20 am

Hi Denise. I wish I had the answers, but all I can think is that it takes a few times for our bodies to realize they're sensitive to it. I am certain I did my first dip without any trouble, and I'm almost certain I did my second that way as well. I actually thought the problem was the Peppi dip, which I didn't use until the 3rd dip. However, when I went back to Kiara Sky, it happened again. So I guess it just affects different people in different ways. I'm really sorry you're dealing with it.

Sheila

11/4/2020 11:38:11 pm

So the thing about allergies is it’s an immune response... and the first time you are exposed to an antigen or allergin, your body doesn’t know to create a response because it has never been exposed before. Think of the first exposure as an identification trial. Not until you have been exposed and your body has marked that antigen or allergen as being foreign and threatening can it respond. So it might have been all the times you had prior exposures, you didn’t breathe in enough powder or it didn’t touch enough skin (depending on what part it is that is causing the reactions) to actually allow your body to recognize it as foreign. Once the body does have the allergen identified and has deemed it as the “this is a threat” you will only have an allergic reaction for the exposures after your body recognized it as foreign. I’m interested to know if it’s the actual powder, the powder reacting with the bond/ activator/ top coat (like the filing dust), or exclusively the bond/ activator/ top coat that is causing such an allergic uproar in so many people!

11/5/2020 09:46:33 pm

So one thing to keep in mind is that methyl methacrylate, which is likely the ingredient we are all having reactions to as it is a known carcinogen (when it is in liquid form, once it dries, the properties are much less irritating) is a respiratory sensitizer rather than respiratory irritant. By definition, a respiratory sensitizer causes progressively worse responses upon exposure. So perhaps the first few times, your exposure to the fumes was so limited that you didn't develop any reaction, or it was no mild you didn't notice. The respiratory symptoms are related to amount of particles inhaled as well as the amount of exposures previously.

Melissa

4/12/2020 08:35:38 pm

I’m so thankful I found this article. I thought I was going a little crazy trying to figure out why my allergies were so nuts all of a sudden especially since I’ve mostly been inside! So the gas mask works for you now with little to no reaction? I don’t want to give up my dip powders if I can help it and have been excited to be able to do my own at home. Let me know!

4/12/2020 08:54:35 pm

Hey Melissa! I don't have any issues as long as I use the half face gas mask. The cartridges block all vapors, just make sure the seal is tight around your face. It's easy to accomplish by pulling the straps tight once you have them over your head. Be sure you still do your nails in a ventilated area, or plan on staying out of the area for awhile after while you let it air out. The vapors will linger in the air awhile, so that might affect you a little bit if you stay in the same room immediately afterward without the mask. I hope it helps!

Emily S.

4/18/2020 06:55:16 pm

How long will your dip manicure typically last when you use the nail guards?

4/18/2020 07:20:03 pm

Hey Emily. If you prep your nail well (buff it, especially the tips and edges, then wash with dawn or the like) they last the entire length of my manicure. I typically change colors every two weeks, and I have yet to have one peel up noticeably. You really do need to prep your nails well, though. Good luck!

4/19/2020 07:24:04 am

Wow! That's really impressive. Thank you for the advice. I think I'll give it a try.

Cindy

4/19/2020 07:32:38 am

Count me in as another victim of the Dip Flu! I didn't connect the dots either... but now it's undeniable. Unfortunately with all the COVID-19 impacts, masks aren't available. I have been searching for low oder dip liquids - curious - has anyone had any luck with this brand? ANC - their website says:

A one of a kind dip powder system that uses odor - uv free liquids to eliminate harsh fumes. Creating an environmentally safe workplace.

Figured Id start with all of you .... sorry for the reactions you all are having. They're scary! Three days of not being able to breathe, itchy inner ears and throat...not worth even how lovely my nails look. I was using Kiara Sky liquids, switched to Triple Vitamin - same results. Curious if the ANC had been vetted by any of you? Thanks for any input - and stay healthy out there!

4/19/2020 07:59:12 am

Hey Cindy, I'm so sorry you're dealing with it too, especially right now! Is there any way you can compare the ANC ingredients to the ones you're using now? I'm not sure how to go about that, but if you could see if the ingredients were the same in both, it might help narrow down what exactly it is causing the problem. I don't think I'd buy it if the ingredients looked the same. Hopefully some of the other ladies who read this thread will be able to help as well. One "good" thing that's come out of this whole COVID thing is that I haven't had anything on my nails in almost a month. Since I broke my arm in February I haven't been able to do them myself, so I soaked all of my dip off and started applying this stuff, which I really love. It's at least keeping them strong while my nails are dip free. Maybe it'll help you out if you're going to go dip free for a bit while you figure out your options. Hard As Hoof - https://amzn.to/34M10Pa (that's my Amazon affiliate link, so if you don't want to use it, you can search for Hard As Hoof on Amazon.) If you do switch to ANC, can you come back and let us know how it goes?

Sandy

10/21/2020 07:28:18 am

I have used the ANC brand and it stuffs me up also.

Cathy

11/21/2020 05:10:08 am

I just started using ANC and 1st 2 times had no problems; 3rd time my nose started going about 5 hours later and I had ALL the symptoms mentioned by other users, and it was days before I could breathe through my nose. Thought it was the acetone causing my problem so last night I did my nails on the porch with a fan, a (regular) face mask and all the windows open. But within 2 hours all the nose stuff came back, with the addition of wheezing. Couldn’t lay flat, had to sit on couch all night, no sleep. Got up this morning and googled “nail powder allergy” and here I am...

11/21/2020 06:24:50 am

Hi Cathy. I am so sorry you're having this reaction. :( It took a couple of times of dipping before the allergy manifested for many of us. I was convinced I was only allergic to one brand and not another for that very reason. Turns out it just needed 2 or 3 dips for my body to absolutely rebel. Have you watched the video on using your powders with the UV/Gel system? Many ladies on here have reported success with that method, eliminating the allergy and letting them keep all those beautiful powders they've purchased. Hopefully it'll get you relief and beautiful nails. :)

steffy

5/3/2020 01:34:40 am

Do you think an allergy can also be just a stuffy nose, sneezing and my eyelids are currently swollen? not sure if it’s a reaction to my eyelash glue ( not sure if my nose would be clogged from eyelash glue reaction) but my eyelids are swollen and itchy no idea which one is the culprit. this is my second at home dip and now this is happening but i’m not having any lung issues

5/3/2020 05:43:20 am

I think that could absolutely be a reaction to your nail products. If you have a latex allergy, then it could be a reaction to the latex lash adhesive. I also had an allergic reaction that just affected my eyes when I was having gel manicures. Turns out I’m allergic to those, as well as dip nails.

If you can find them at the drugstore, there are cleansing eye wipes in the section with the contact lens stuff, and that will help to clean any residue that may be causing a reaction off of your eyes. Good luck and hope you feel better!

Meghan

10/8/2020 10:21:07 am

You have sensitized yourself to acrylic, so basically anything with acrylic with give you symptoms. I would avoid all arcylic products if you can. It's in EVERYTHING! Shampoos, soaps, lotions, makeup and I am someone who is sensitized and I can't wear anything anymore. I have to buy special products for everything. Good luck and just avoid anything with acrylic and you should feel better.

10/10/2020 06:57:30 am

I think a lot of the ladies on here have found that the culprit is the binders in the dipping system. Maybe try the alternate method II've outlined in the post (no dip binders) and see if that helps? I hope it does!

11/4/2020 11:43:00 pm

You are having dip flu I’ll bet! My eyes got very swollen, very scratchy throat/ irritating dry cough which eventually turned into a productive cough, sinus pressure, the most congested nose I’ve ever had in my life, sneezing, pressure in my upper chest/ sternum area, occasional wheezing with coughing fits (or laughing fits, though I didn’t do much of that), itchy neck, very itchy hands, and very itchy and red cuticles. The most prominent symptoms were the eyes, cough, and nose congestion though.

Meg

11/6/2020 09:11:11 am

I had terrible reactions to eyelash glue for extensions and now have figured out that my terribly itchy rash on neck, face and scalp and swollen eyes is happening after I have my nails dipped. I never put two and two together that the ingredient in both glues is what sets my immune system off!

11/6/2020 11:14:02 am

Hey Meg, sorry you're dealing with this. Yep, so many ladies have commented that their symptoms went away when they switched to the UV method/gel, ditching the bonders that come with the dip systems. Hopefully that works for you as well.

Stephanie L

5/4/2020 10:22:49 pm

Thank you for your information!! I’m glad I’m not the only one having this issue but if so many people are having these symptoms maybe we shouldn’t be using these products. I started using dip powder at the salon last summer and I love the way they come out but I would get allergy symptoms (cold symptoms) randomly and never realized it was related until this pandemic. I ordered nugenesis powder and a gelish kit since that was what my nail lady used. The first couple times I did my nails myself I woke up the next day all stuffed up, sneezing a lot and so congested. I also started getting hives on my neck. My chest also felt weird when breathing, I thought maybe I had asthma but I’ve never been diagnosed with it. Each time I was like that for 2 days. After this 3rd time (last week) I finally realized it was from the nail products. And each time my symptoms are getting worse. I take allergy medicine daily but it’s not enough. During those 2 days I also have to take Benadryl every 4-6 hours just to be somewhat comfortable and be able to breathe. I vacuum and clean the area really well afterwards. I’m starting to get really worried about this and I’m wondering if it’s worth it. Masks are also hard to find now with the pandemic. I don’t know how these nail technicians do this all day. This stuff would kill me!

5/11/2020 07:29:31 am

Hey Stephanie. You know, I always thought the masks my nail techs used were to keep particles out of their faces, but now I realize it must be them trying to mitigate the effect of the fumes. My salon would also almost constantly run fans and keep the doors open if it all possible (almost impossible in a Texas summer). My symptoms also worsened at home each time. Unfortunately, if we have an allergy to this, I don't think it's going to get better. Hopefully the mask works for you when you're able to find them.

5/11/2020 08:30:10 am

I’ve been doing some research on the ingredients and I honestly don’t think it’s the actual powder that’s been bothering us. It seems it’s the fumes/vapors from the liquid base and top coat. Turns out they have a chemical in them called Ethyl Cyanoacrylate (it’s glue- like a super/crazy glue) which is harmful and can cause respiratory problems and allergy symptoms. Everyone should look it up. I took a picture of some info but I can’t post the picture on here. It says it can cause asthma and flu like symptoms as well as a skin irritant. They did some studies on people that worked in places that were around that Chemical and it can cause permanent damage to your lungs over time such as chronic asthma. Most of these people actually weren’t exposed to it that long, maybe a few months or a year. It said to use it in a well ventilated area. So I will try it one more time outside and with a mask on but if it doesn’t help I may stop dipping my nails completely. Please everyone be careful using this stuff!

Stephany

5/11/2020 10:00:23 am

I also had an allergic reaction to dip powder. I used the red carpet brand from Ulta. Like others in the comments, I also had a delayed reaction where I thought I just had flu like symptoms the first time and then the second time I had to go to the doctor cause I had such a hard time breathing. I have no other respiratory related issues so it really threw me off.
Apparently the main ingredient that causes the allergic reaction is the cyanoacrylate that is in the super glue. I found online that others who use superglue and are breathing in the fumes from it (model airplane builders and similar hobbyists) have the same asthmatic reactions to it.
I would like to try acrylic or gel overlay on my nails to help them grow out (like the dip did) but honestly I’m a little afraid to try something else without knowing if cyanoacrylates/superglue is involved.

5/19/2020 07:49:09 am

Hey Stephany. Did you end up finding any dip kits without that ingredient?

Deborah

10/8/2020 12:19:05 am

As I sit here sneezing, I realize my worst fears have been realized. I got my nails dipped at the salon for years with no problem, fast forward to COVID. I got a great home dip kit on Amazon called GH Dip. I did probably 5-6 manicures and even ordered a second set of powders and liquid. I’ve been doing my nails outside on the balcony since it’s so messy inside. Recently I did a new set with tips and an ombré effect and it came out great. However, that night and the following 2-3 nights I had an allergic reaction. Today I did a fill on a few nails and now I’m up researching this allergy and here we are. It is definitely the cyanoacrilate. And how do I know this? This is the exact same reaction I had to eyelash extension glue. Exactly. I did extensions for a year or more before I had reactions. Even the “sensitive” glue had the same reaction, because it contained the same ingredient. I believe once you develop this allergy, you cannot go back to the salon, or even change brands. Please someone tell me if I’m wrong? I guess this is my last set, I will have to find an alternative, I’d hate to go back to UV gel but it could be an only alternative. Thanks for sharing the info, glad to know I’m not alone.

10/8/2020 09:46:16 am

Hi Deborah

So I haven’t given any updates but when the salons opened back up, I went back to my salon and continued using the dip powders. So far I haven’t had any reactions since being back at the salon. I go every two weeks and no allergies but I do have to wear a mask when I’m there and there’s plexiglass in between the nail tech and me. I’m thinking because there’s extra protection is why I haven’t had any issues. Also, I do still take my allergy meds every night for my seasonal allergies (I was taking it when doing my own nails at home, so no change there). You can try the salon and see what happens. If you still get allergy symptoms then I would suggest using something else like the polygel. Good luck! Anyone else that went back to the salon doing better?

10/21/2020 07:38:11 am

Hi Deborah. First off I am so sorry you're dealing with this, it's awful that so many of us have such issues. Secondly, don't give up hope for the salon. I started dipping at home, then I broke my arm snowboarding and haven't been able to go back to doing my own nails yet. I have returned to the salon and have not had any issues. I broke my arm in February and did get my nails done in the salon a few times before masks became the new normal, so hopefully you can go back as well without any problems.

5/15/2020 08:37:12 am

Wow! I have been researching all on YouTube and couldn’t find any info until I came here! I have used the Rossi glam powder system. Nails turned out beautiful but within a few hours my nose became so congested, I could not breath. The second time i used the product on a friend. Within an hour my nose became congested, i started coughing and sneezing, and then i had shortness of breath and expiratory wheezing! I’m a nurse so I was concerned about Covid, but then I put two and two together! Don’t understand why I get my nails with the dip powder in the nail salon but when i try at home
Its a problem! :-( I’m so sad about this!

5/19/2020 07:53:29 am

Hey Tiffany, I am so glad you figured out what was going on, and that it wasn't COVID. I'm sad about it as well. I don't like wearing the gas mask to do my nails, but it is what it is. We've only got one set of lungs, so for me it's either suit up or stop dipping. I wish the manufacturers would figure out what the issue is because it seems like a ton of ladies share this problem.

Natalie Sherwood

10/24/2020 09:09:51 pm

How long did your wheezing last? Mine started last Sunday about a hour or so after I did my nails. Here it is Saturday and it’s very mild but nonetheless, I’m still finding tightened in my throat and upper chest. Could my airways just still be inflamed?

10/25/2020 08:14:51 am

Hi Natalie. It took a solid week the first time, and it got worse every time after that until I started wearing the masks. At this point I would really recommend you ditch the binders and the masks, and swap over to using your powders with the Gel/UV system I posted about in the blog. I hope that helps and I am sorry you're dealing with this.

5/18/2020 08:00:15 pm

Hi, I have tried a kiss brand and revel and each time i get the same symptoms as everyone else! Except for me it starts instantly, while i am doing the nails. Took me until my second try to figure it out and a start to google what was happening. Unfortunately, this was after the trip to the ER the first time with a completely sleepless night. This resulted in about $200 spent to that.Today was the second try and I am currently sick, I just hope I can sleep. although I love how the nails look I am throwing the kits away since I do NOT wish to feel like this again. I Emailed the company to express my issues and anger, seeing that there was not a warning in site about any of this. Here is to speedy recovery's to all the nail dip victims.

5/19/2020 07:54:48 am

Hey Megan, how did you do overnight? I hope you're feeling better. I agree that there should be a warning somewhere, this is way to common not to address.

Mimi

7/26/2020 09:38:16 am

Look up katesnails a youtuber who use gel base with dip powder and cure under led/uv lamp instead of the liquids that came with the system. It worked out great for me. Not too crazy about the led/uv lamp but it beats having dip flu.

10/10/2020 06:58:19 am

This was such a wonderful suggestion, thank you!

5/18/2020 08:38:12 pm

So ladies I tried dipping my nails again this past weekend and had some success. I was outside the whole time from start to finish and I wore two masks. When applying the base coat and top coat I tried not to breathe in and turned my face if needed so that I wouldn’t inhale any fumes. I showered right after I was done. A couple hours later I did start coughing and had that weird feeling in my upper chest so I got nervous. I took my regular allergy med for the night and went to sleep. Next morning I woke up ok. Throughout the day I sneezed here and there but not bad at all. The coughing and weird chest feeling were gone and no hives this time! Yay!! There may be hope!!

5/19/2020 07:56:07 am

Hey Stephanie, I'm so glad you found something that works for you. Being outside in the open air is a great idea. What two masks did you wear? Other ladies who read this might be interested in that, so if you see this, let us know. Thanks!

5/19/2020 09:57:16 am

I used two regular masks. Like the medical professionals wear. Not the N95 and not cotton masks. Just the regular blue masks but I know they can come in different colors like yellow or orange cream. I think the most important thing is definitely well ventilation and try to not breathe the vapors/fumes in. Sometimes after I applied the coats I would get up and walk away while my nails dried so I wouldn’t be breathing that area in. I hope this helps others but at the same time it’s sad that we have to find ways to do this without getting sick. I did notice on my gelish products it does have warning labels stating avoid contact with skin and eyes, irritating to eyes, respiratory system and skin and to use with adequate ventilation. The nugenesis products don’t say anything at all. Something definitely needs to be done because this stuff is damaging our lungs and financially affecting women that have to go to the doctors or to the emergency room because they can’t breathe from this.

Beth

5/22/2020 10:03:30 am

I finally figured out that my inflammatory rhinitis is linked to doing my nails. Within hours my sinuses are so inflamed I cannot breathe through my nose at all. I can’t figure out if it’s the dust from drilling/filing or the chemicals used in the dip application. So glad you shared your story because it confirms it for me. Did you say that you do NOT get sick from using Kiara Sky products?

5/22/2020 01:03:51 pm

Hi Beth, I'm so sorry, but no, the Kiara Sky still made me sick. I think (and I have no proof to back this up other than experience) that it got progressively worse for me. When I did it first I used Kiara Sky and don't recall getting sick. Then I used Peppi and did get sick even worse the second time I used Peppi. I did them a fourth time using Kiara Sky (thinking it hadn't made me sick) and got sick worse than the previous times. I'm a little convinced that once you have a reaction you have a stronger reaction after that each time you do it, and it takes even less exposure. I'm so sorry you're dealing with this too.

Sarah Frye

5/23/2020 05:10:22 pm

This is so crazy! I can't believe so many people are having this problem! I tried my own mani with the Kiara Sky powders kit and almost immediately after my chest started tightening up and I was wheezing. I don't have asthma so as I thought it was strange. Also my eyes were burning while I was doing the mani. Throughout the day I had UNCONTROLLABLE sneezing. My sister got so concerned she let me borrow her inhaler because she could hear me struggling to breathe. It was horrible and I'm so scared to do this again but these nails really protect my natural nails from breaking and I would rather try and save money by doing it myself. I have never had this problem when I have had them done at the salon so I'm not sure what it is we are all doing wrong to get this reaction.

5/28/2020 08:27:15 pm

Hi Sarah, I can only think it's proximity? I don't know what else it could be. Like you I only had them done in salons for years, never had a problem, but the second I started doing them at home, it was armageddon. :)

5/25/2020 01:49:58 pm

Have any of you switched to polygel nails and avoided an allergic reaction?

5/28/2020 08:28:09 pm

Hi Beth, I've never heard of Polygel nails. Are they applied with similar products? I guess my worry would be that it's not the composition of the dip, but the composition of the bonder, etc.

SUSIE !

5/31/2020 07:56:53 pm

My nails are beautiful but I can't breathe. Same problems everyone else is having... I never sneezed so much in my life. Using SNS products. I also bought an 80w vacuum box but not helping. Is there a base and top coat product that isn't so toxic?

6/3/2020 09:14:07 am

Hi Susie. I'm sorry to say that I don't know of any products that aren't causing the same issues. One of the ladies in the comments speculated that it might be a certain chemical causing the trouble, but I don't know if she's tried something different yet. I think there's a general concern that we'll spend the money on something else, but still have the same problem. I wish I had answers. I'm sorry you're dealing with this.

Sheila

Jodie (Australia)

6/2/2020 04:44:08 am

Hi girls,
Like everyone else I’ve been having my nails done at a salon for few years with no problem!
Once Covid hit I couldn’t get them done 😔
and so decided to try it myself at home.
I bought the Gelish kit. I did them in the morning then about 5hrs later I had the runniest nose and sneezing like mad. I thought maybe it was from the dust?? I bought I decongestant which helped my blocked nose. But like you guys I wondered why I didn’t have a problem in the salon. So I decided I was being paranoid.
2 weeks of blocked nose, so I used decongestant morning and night and put it down to seasonal allergies.
The second time I tried the Dip it happened again, but not so much sneezing. So this time I new it was the Dip. I tried it again today b4 reading this post.
I went outside and used a N95 mask.
By late afternoon I had blocked nose again!!!
So upset, I get the mani done because my natural nails are so thin.
I’m worried now, because this stuff must be really bad!!! The salon I go to doesn’t have the best ventilation though, so I can’t understand why all the technicians are okay?!? 🤷‍♀️
I will do some more research. Thanks for all your posts. 🙏

6/3/2020 09:18:07 am

Hey Jodie! I wonder the same thing. I know the technicians at the salon I go to always wear masks, but they're nothing special, not any more substantial than a the one with stars on it I'm wearing in the post. I've thought about asking them, but I'm not sure if it would come across right. There is a little bit of a language barrier and the last thing I want to do is make them think I'm having an allergy after getting my nails done at their salon, which hasn't happened so far except for one day when there was next to no ventilation. I don't see how so many women have no allergies at all, it's crazy. When I was on Facebook I was on the Peppi Gel page, there are tens of thousands of women on their doing their own nails with apparently no issues, so it must be a small subset of ladies who have these reactions. Not the best group to be a part of. :) If you figure anything out, please come back and let us know, we'd be eager to hear!

Sheila

6/3/2020 11:49:18 am

FYI I’m trying Polygel this week so I’ll post on whether or not I get “dip flu” symptoms.

6/5/2020 08:00:09 am

Hey Beth! I'm very excited to hear how this goes for you, thanks for the upcoming update!

Debbie (Florida)

6/5/2020 07:28:20 am

I'm having the same reaction with dipping powders. The gas masks are not available on Amazon. Do you have any other suggestions for where to buy them? I REALLY love doing my nails and will wear anything that stops this reaction.

6/5/2020 08:05:49 am

Hi Debbie. I found this one on Amazon, but the earliest delivery would be a week. Maybe Home Depot or some place that people could buy masks that they'd use while painting or being around fumes? https://amzn.to/2zVZAH9

I hope that helps!

6/5/2020 08:13:43 am

Thank you so much, Sheila! That one is in my cart now, Do you have a link for the one the nail techs wear too? The Muryobao mask link doesn't show up in Amazon anymore. I want to order one of those, too.

And I love the nail guard tip! Have to order that too! :)

6/5/2020 08:19:18 am

Hey Debbie, maybe this one? https://amzn.to/2zX1TK5

Thanks for letting me know the ones I have linked aren't there, I'll update the link. :)

6/5/2020 11:45:52 am

I ditched my dip system and bought a Polygel kit on Amazon. No issues at all! Here’s a tutorial in case anyone is interested. https://youtu.be/qQ7EZ-q0pt8

6/5/2020 03:38:29 pm

Hey Beth, thanks for updating us! Can you tell us a little about the application? Do you feel like it's as easy as dip, or is it more like something you paint on (like acrylics)? How about shape and thickness, about the same as dip? And finally, what about strength, is it stronger than shellac? I know that's a ton of questions.

Thanks!

6/5/2020 05:38:31 pm

So I just did polygel on myself yesterday and my friend today. I use the dual forms (there are a million tutorials on youtube). I think it’s easier than dip to be honest, much less filing and no odor. I would check out some videos on youtube, most of them include links for the products they are using also.

I got this starter kit on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MGGXGW7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_itU2EbPM7YWD3.

I am using this UV curing lamp (you want at least a 24W lamp): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JGG5CMO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gvU2EbRV55M9N

Aundy

6/7/2020 04:28:38 pm

Wow - Ty thank you so much for posting, as sad as I am. I can't believe everyone who's had a reaction and now it's me. I also have been excited to do my nails at home since COVID and have done 5 applications of Peppi Gel. I had minor coughing start the 1st time I did it, thinking it was seasonal allergies related - but each week, my cough, sneezing,watery eyes got worse. Last weekend, after finishing my weekly manicure with Peppi, I went into such a coughing fit - it lasted 2 hours and the next day I went to urgent care. Reading all of these posts makes me so sad because I thought I was switching to a safer, better for my nails and new way to relax kind of a habit. Also, I have 5 colors and am waiting for yet another order of 8 or 9 colors :(. I really don't want to stop doing my nails, but I'm honestly really scared and my family has been worried about me because I have this "dry cough and coughing fits" that have been going on for 5 weeks now. Ugh. I'm wondering - has anyone found alternate bonding agents that don't have cyanoacrylate in it? I guess I could sell all of my powders to someone who's not affected by it, but I'm so sad. Ugh.

6/7/2020 05:02:48 pm

I ditched my dip system and bought a Polygel kit on Amazon. No issues at all! Here’s a tutorial in case anyone is interested: https://youtu.be/qQ7EZ-q0pt8.

I did polygel on myself yesterday and my friend today. I use the dual forms (there are a million tutorials on youtube). I think it’s easier than dip to be honest, much less filing and no odor. I would check out some videos on youtube, most of them include links for the products they are using also.

I got this starter kit on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MGGXGW7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_itU2EbPM7YWD3.

I am using this UV curing lamp (you want at least a 24W lamp): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JGG5CMO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gvU2EbRV55M9N.

Just ditch the dip. Who knows what damage it may be doing to our sinuses and lungs.

Carrie

8/25/2020 11:48:23 am

I have the same dry cough and coughing fits.. have basically been constant for a year of me doing my nails. Finally linking it all together and even with a gas mask I still have the cough.. I would like to see if there are any liquids like what you asked about that would not cause the coughing... I chalked it Up to allergies at first bit now realize it has to be related.

8/28/2020 01:03:20 pm

Hey Carrie. A few ladies have had luck with replacing the liquids with the UV light method, which still lets them use all of their powders. I posted the video in the blog post, if you'd like to check it out.

I hope it helps!

Shannon

6/9/2020 08:20:59 am

I just ordered the mask and some safety glasses but there are too many filter options to choose from. What filters do you use for the half face gas mask? I used the cheap Leafu binders (combo base and top coat) and had a horrific reaction. I had a much less bad reaction to just the Rossi system, but would obviously like to not be sick at all!!

6/10/2020 11:10:34 am

Hey Shannon, I use the cartridges for vapor. It'll say something about chemicals, odor, etc. Here's a link - https://amzn.to/3hfXEKg

I hope that helps, and I'm sorry you're dealing with this as well.

Sheila

Ashley

7/3/2020 09:20:31 am

I am having the exact symptoms everyone else is! I thought I was being super smart and safe going with the Kiara Sky products, because they’re well known and “top of the line.” I think the assumption that no one had issues at the salon is correct, your hands were at least two feet from your face. The first two times I did mine I used a dinner tray, which was difficult because it was too short which meant my hands were further away from my face...but I had no issues. The third time I sat at my desk because the height is better and my hands were closer for me to see, I ended up very sick that evening and I really thought it was my allergies. I live in the country and mowing season always kills me. I had to call off work, more so because patients don’t want a coughing sniffling dental assistant right now. I had the sore chest and throat, fully stuffed up nose and ears and general exhaustion that a cold would cause. I used a mask the next time I did them, already starting to wonder if it was the dip making me sick. Plain cloth mask, that I forgot to put on with the first hand but used for the second. Much less sick that time. So I’m hoping if I get a better mask and wear it the whole time, I can continue to dip. I use hand sanitizer constantly, so without dips my nails just peel off in layers. Thank you for your post!

7/3/2020 09:57:48 am

Hey Ashley, thanks for your comment. It's good to know that you noticed a difference when you held your hands further away, definitely something for the rest of us to consider. I'm glad the mask worked to help alleviate the symptoms a bit, it does sound like a better mask will take care of it!

Jackie B

7/6/2020 01:20:11 am

Thank you so so much for this. I've been dipping my nails since COVID shutdown started in March and didn't put the nasty cough post-dip together until maybe the 4th time I did it but still wasn't sure it wasn't just something I was doing. I've tried a couple different masks and just did my nails tonight. Finished about 8pm and now at 1am I can hear the crackle in my chest. I've had acrylics for a million years and never had any issues. I just can't do the fills myself and tried dips. Lavender Violets liquids and a few different powders. No more after this. I'm tossing them all and just letting my paper thin nails, and my lungs, breath. Good luck everyone!

7/8/2020 08:00:45 pm

Hi Jackie. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, it's just terrible. I think throwing the stuff out is the wisest choice, for sure. I hope your nail salon opens up soon and you can get back to having them done without any side effects.

Sydney Renee Boyd

7/25/2020 03:18:19 pm

Has anyone tried the powder with the gel polish like in the YouTube video in the original article?

7/25/2020 03:32:56 pm

Hey Sydney. So far the only person to comment about the gel method was in the youtube video comments. She said she was really happy with it. Now that I think of it, she may have posted in the comments here as well...

Kelly Clarke

9/1/2020 09:15:52 am

Wow! So interesting and I’m glad I’m not the only one! All this information is great. I could have written so many of comments about the reactions including the original blog author! Thank you for all the tips and information!

9/27/2020 06:43:44 am

Hey Kelly! I'm sorry you're going through it. I hope the alternative in here helps you out.

Amanda

9/26/2020 09:40:02 pm

I thought I was the only person!
I’ve been using Kiara sky for a few months now and I’m just now getting the hang of it and have spent so much $.
Within an hour I have the tightness in my chest, the uncontrollable cough, the runny yet stuffy nose and then my voice goes. Needless to say I’m Miserable and it increasingly worse for a few days. I even went to an allergy specialist not realizing it was the dip system until reading your post today. I do not know what to do. I’ll try the gas mask however the hubby says it’s got to go it’s not worth my health which makes me wondering if symptoms linger as the product is then seeping into your system?
What to do? I want to cry...I love the product and the colors and it’s fairly easy (now that I got the hang of it).

9/27/2020 06:42:44 am

Hey Amanda. You are definitely not alone. I wish I could tell you that'll get better, but I'm pretty sure the ladies on here have only had it get worse.

Did you look at the video in the post that shows the woman using the dip with the UV light? That method has seemed to work for a lot of us. You still get to use your powders, so you're not out that money, but you no longer use the binders (which we're pretty sure is the problem).

Stephanie

9/28/2020 01:51:08 pm

I too have been getting dip flu for a couple months now, and only yesterday did I realize that the relevance! I have been using the AVVA system since March and was totally fine until a couple months ago when I bought a new brand of topcoat from Amazon called AZURE. This is probably my 4th time using it and I truly feel like I have the flu each time. I was thinking it was allergies, or a lack of immunity from COVID isolation, or because of a change in vitamins...but lo and behold, it only happens the day I do my nails. It usually lasts 2-3 days, but I think it is lasting even longer this time around. Anyway, I am going to re-stock on the AVVA topcoat and see if I have a reaction. If not, I will update my post and hopefully it will work better for other people too! For now, stay away from AZURE!

10/10/2020 07:00:04 am

Hey Stephanie, how did the AVVA work for you? I think a lot of the ladies on here have had success switching to the alternate method I've outlined in the post, eliminating the binders for the dip method. If you try that, please let me know how it goes.

Cathy Nicholson

10/9/2020 02:14:50 pm

Hi Sheila,
I had a problem with the Gelish Dip kit.I used the lint wipe they provide to wipe off the top coat brush.That caused a chemical burn.I contacted the company and they said cotton can cause a problem if used to wipe brushes.They do not state this anywhere on their kit.They admitted it should be listed on their packaging.I requested my money back and asked that they include a warning.They seemed interested in my concerns in July.They asked for pics of my thumb that was burned.I provided all the info to them.They have stopped answering my emails.I am interested to know if anyone else has had this happen to them!

10/10/2020 07:00:54 am

Wow Cathy! That's really frustrating. I hope the other ladies who posted on here see your comment.

10/10/2020 07:56:19 am

Thanks Sheila! I think companies need to be accountable for the products they sell.It is very concerning that you and others have had breathing issues with some products.Have you contacted the manufacturer?

Beth Moura

10/21/2020 08:41:43 am

All, the nail dip systems all use liquids that are nearly identical to, or are super glue. I stopped using them altogether once reading about “dip flu” and making the connection that my chronic inflammatory rhinitis always appeared within 12-24 hours of doing my nails. I confirmed it again last thursday when I was used super glue (not thinking) to glue no-skid backings on carpet runners in my house. I am still suffering today (wednesday) but it’s clearing up. DO YOURSELVES A FAVOR and ditch the masks, respirators, etc. and invest in a POLYGEL nail system and gel polishes. It’s what i’ve been using and like it much better. Easier to file, harder to break, and absolutely no odor. I got the Beetles poly gel kit you can use whatever tips you want, comes with forms and UV lights are cheap enough and I think it’s an easier process. Just get one that’s at least 24W. Seriously i’ve been reading all these posts about the masks you’re using and so on but it’s just not worth it. I started watching polygel tutorials on YouTube and made the switch. Never looked back. If you have a lot of dip stuff sell it as a kit on eBay and move on. Good Luck!

10/25/2020 08:12:17 am

Hey Beth! I am going to agree with you here on ditching the masks and the binders. Using the half face mask with the seal does work, but that stuff lingers in the air after you are done, so unless you really clear the air in the room you are going to have some sort of reaction. Another great method is to ditch the binders for the dip systems and swap over to using the UV/Gel system so you can still use all the powders you have on hand and those don't go to waste. I'm definitely not using the binders anymore once my arm is fully healed and ready to go. So, hopefully in another 5 months. :)

Jessica

11/21/2020 06:47:57 am

Are you still having luck with the Beetles polygel/uv? Also do you use 100% acetone to remove? Or an acetone with additives?

Alexis L.

11/3/2020 08:17:32 am

This post was certainly helpful! I was searching to see if it was possible to be allergic to the dip powders. I have learned I definitely react to the dip liquids, regardless of brand, and have since switched over to the gel method using dip powder. Unfortunately, I still get sick after doing my nails! I will be ordering the respirator mask to use, because like you, I don't want to return to the salon. I fear my sensitivity is to the actual dipping powder :(

11/5/2020 07:07:31 am

Hi Alexis. I am so sorry to hear that you're still having allergies even after swapping to the gel method. I wish there were some way to figure out if it is the powders, but I can't think of anything that you probably haven't thought of. The respirator will help, just be sure to get the type with the full seal around the face. Good luck!

11/5/2020 10:42:19 pm

Hey there... So I've replied to a bunch of these comments gradually, as I have been doing research (Im an RN and work nights, so I've had some free time and I'm so shocked at how sick this made me and how I was never warned, etc!!!!). I also am a very analytical person and like to know the ins and outs of how things work. So after doing a ton of research whilst being plagued with dip flu currently (and having gone to the Dr. about it two weeks ago when I last dipped bc I was so sick and in tears) I came across a scholarly article that explains a lot. It might be difficult to follow if you don't have a medical background, but its an interesting read and very telling nonetheless. If you haven't seen in some of the above comments from myself and a few others, this irritant is methyl methacrylate (MMA) and research about it is very telling... it is the adhering agent in the bond/ top coat (which is essentially the same formula for both regardless of brand). Here is a study on MMA and goes in depth with toxicity, the mechanisms of which, and some of the implications.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/10408444.2010.532768

Copy and waste in web address bar. I'm gonna try and switch the UV gel bonds instead and cure with a lamp so my dip powders I've purchased in recent months weren't a waste of $, hopefully the powders did not get too contaminated from the base coats I dipped into them as I'm sure they can still cause a reaction if that is the case. I'm hoping and praying I see the same durability and longevity with get bases! This super sucks!

11/6/2020 11:15:54 am

Hey Shonna! Thank you so much for this! I think I might even go and update the blog post with that link so people can see what it is that might be causing their issues. Thanks again!

11/21/2020 06:45:54 am

Did you have any luck with the UV? Which brand did you try?
A recent thought I had was the acetone I was using, I had used 100% acetone and then switched to ones with various additives and I’m wondering if the additives are part of the problem? Two fingers seems to be reacting in hives so I wondered if that was the acetone or the additives or the nail products. I’ve tried switching to a UV polygel but still ended up with a cough for several days, though not quite as bad as with the dip powders/liquids.

Eboni

11/8/2020 09:43:51 pm

Hi Sheila, I appreciate this blog post very much. I was a licensed nail technician for several years, but I haven’t used my skills for a few years. Now that I’ve decided to start back up, I thought I’d try dip powder. The first time I used it I must not have linked the connection. The second time was a few days ago and a few hours after I had an asthma attack. Thought it was random because, just like you I don’t have attacks very often. I know my tiggers pretty well. It was also accompanied by bad allergies, sneezing, itchy throat etc. I was feeling awful, so I went for the allergy meds and got back in bed. But today was my third use and just like that last time a few hours after my full set the asthma attack came on. I’ve already used my pump three times. It’s so difficult to breathe and the stuffy nose is so bothersome. I knew for a fact it was the system. I hate to give this up but I can’t keep putting myself through this torture. I know MMA was an issue when I was a tech always heard to stay away from it but never even thought that it could be in this new nail technology. So glad I googled and read this entire post and comments. Thank you again! Much Appreciated. Take care and God Bless!

11/9/2020 08:16:26 am

Hi Eboni. I am so sorry you're dealing with this, it's so upsetting. If you were not a nail tech I would absolutely say that you would probably be fine having it done in a salon (many of us do it there and have zero issues), but as a tech being around it all day, I don't think it's going to get any better, as you've no doubt surmised. I had it done for years in a salon with zero issues, but as soon as I started doing them myself at home, it was unbearable. Does this mean you won't be able to return to work as a nail tech? Can you choose to not apply dip nails, or do you think even being in the salon with other techs using the system will trigger the symptoms?

11/9/2020 08:41:25 am

I found another article that’s useful. I also looked into how methacrylate has made its way into these products when it was banned from being used beauty products in the in 1974– the answer is simply these products are not required to be submitted to the FDA, especially if they are outsourced from other countries (many of them are Asian countries). Essentially, they get away with it b/c they know their product has a very small likelihood of ever being in contact with the FDA due to lack of regulation with these products. Also, I contacted one company of the liquids I use (bh dip from amazon) for an ingredients list and they are giving me the run around and won’t give it to me.

Here is the link and some quotes from this article:

https://www.thehealthy.com/beauty/nail-care/methyl-methacrylate-nail-salons/
“The use of MMA is not illegal for no reason; according to the United States Department of Labor, the industrial use of MMA has been associated with adverse health effects in some people, including irritation of the eyes, nose, throat, and respiratory tract. Repeated exposure resulted in drowsiness, dizzy spells, and trembling of the hands.”...
“Worst case scenario? It can incur potential miscarriages, kidney lesions, liver problems, and permanent respiratory issues—including cancer.”
COOL.

Also, I read that the brand name SNS liquids do not include MMA, tuluene, or formaldehyde (other common irritants in nail products)... so has anyone used only the SNS liquids and found that to be better?

Brittany M

12/9/2020 09:09:31 pm

Shonna, thank you for all the information you have put on here. It has really helped me put all the pieces to the puzzle together on my severe reaction. It has been a hard month for me. Doing my nails 3 times and the third time I am surprised I made it out alive. Still dealing with the after effects. Curious if you would be willing to connect outside this blog? I am trying to figure out if legal actions are appropriate or possibly going to the media about all this. I nearly died from the exposure from what i assume is MMA in the Nailboo kit I bought online and I firmly believe these chemicals shouldn’t be in these products at all- but especially without any disclaimers or warnings. There is not enough awareness OR exposure of these companies. It was hard enough to find this blog and I am so thankful and grateful for this group of people sharing their stories. Anyone else thought of taking action?

12/9/2020 09:56:10 pm

Hey Brittany! I totally agree. I went to the Dr office in tears because it was the sickest I have ever been in my 29 years from that crap. I’m down to connect! I’m no lawyer but I’de be interested to see how that turns out if you chose to proceed. I’m Shonna Daylin on Facebook, blonde hair, from AL. It really does need to be more well recognized and with warning with the nail community and the DIYers. And that study showed long term implications from exposure. Not okay. And so many websites now selling their own brands (Revel, Igel, Dip Well, Nichole Diary) with the the resin liquids (aka traditional gel liquids with the MMA) and none of them have a thing on their website about it that I have seen. I’m just glad I came across this blog and made the connection before I just kept getting sicker and sicker. It was so miserable.

Debbie DeBenedictis

12/10/2020 04:17:53 am

I would like to be included in any action suit. My name is Debbie DeBenedictis in Florida. Debbiedinjax@gmail.com

12/10/2020 02:50:34 pm

Hi Shonna,
I really think it is time manufacturers of these products were held accountable.I no longer use them.I was burned wiping the brush of the top coat with a lint cloth that was in the kit.I contacted Gelish and they said that cotton can cause a chemical reaction with the liquid.There is no disclaimer in their package regarding this.They also did not include an MSDS sheet.This is a legal requirement in Canada.At first Gelish pretended they were interested.Wanted pics of my thumb,receipt etc.I sent it to them.All I asked for was my money back.The kit was $100 plus tax.This was back in July.They did not reimburse me and they will not return my emails.

Mary

2/6/2021 02:24:36 am

I am very sick right now after doing my nails.I've been reading through all these comments and am floored. How in the world are these companies selling this crap to us? We could be giving ourselves cancer. Any of us could die during an asthma attack...I'm lucky I had my son's emergency inhaler. This is not ok
and I am furious. Is anyone in contact with a lawyer?

Jessica van Dam

11/9/2020 07:31:32 pm

I’ve been using Revel nail dip powders (and went to the salon for years before switching) and within the last 3 applications have been having progressively worse allergy attacks. At first I thought it was just normal “I moved to a new place and apartment and something wafted through the house” allergy attack. But finally linked it to the dip powders/liquids.... a real bummer cause now I have so many pretty colors and I’ve got to figure out something else so I can keep my nails long... I saw someone mention the poly gels, has anyone developed any allergies since trying that? The kits aren’t too expensive on Amazon so I’m willing to invest but if it’s a slow build to an allergic reaction I wanna know about any updates y’all might have! Thank you all for your insight! Why are nice nails so difficult and expensive to keep?

11/10/2020 07:33:47 am

Hi Jessica. Hopefully some of the ladies who've made the switch will be able to chime in here, but I do know for sure of two who successfully switched to the UV lamp method I outlined in the blog post. That's actually where I got the idea to include it (from their comments). Apparently the issue is the bonding agents in the dip systems, which are not used in the UV system. I hope that helps. It's frustrating to imagine spending that money on powders and then potentially not being able to use them any longer. Hopefully it works for you and you can keep those powders in your rotation.

Wanda Bishop

11/21/2020 09:52:06 am

My reaction to the dip nails is different. I was using Modelone dipping powder. I used it from August 2020 to November. The last time I had a terrible itching on my fingers and the nuckles of my fingers hurt and ached. I switched to SNS and the first time I used it I had the same problem. Now I am trying to figure ou if it was taking off the Modelone and the acetone or was it the SNS too!! Has anyone else had this problem?

Cat

11/21/2020 01:29:17 pm

Hi I wanted to comment that I too am experiencing asthma from my dip system and to warn that the symptoms also exist using YOUNG NAILS SLICK POUR RESIN SYSTEM. Has. As anyone worked out if it the powders or something in the resin? I assumed it was the fine powder setting us off but it could be the liquids. I too have invested a lot in my system and am finding I’m rushing my nails to reduce exposure. Now I have crap nails and asthma.... great!
Side note, I found using the drill on my nails (for removal) made my asthma worse than using a file...

11/21/2020 02:43:43 pm

Hi Cat. I'm sorry you're dealing with this. I believe the general consensus is that the problem causing the reaction is the binders. Many of the women have switched to the UV/Gel method outlined in the blog post and have stopped having this reaction. You do have to buy the UV light and the gel, but you get to keep using your existing powders. I hope that helps.

Peggy Pelkie

11/23/2020 06:28:16 pm

Hi Shiela, I have just realized I too am having the same exact allergic reactions as all the gals here. I am a cosmetologist and already have the UV light and gel system. Are you saying you can use the Kiara Sky powders with the UV gel system? I am very interested and it sounds like you have already figured it out. Would you please share with me the steps? I’m very disappointed with these allergic reactions and the money I have already spent on this kit! Especially because my nails have been so easy to do! I have the French kit. So happy to have found your blog! Thank you for sharing!

Shonna again

11/21/2020 02:51:20 pm

So great news! I switched to to UV gel liquids (Kupa gelfinity is amazing!) and I honestly like it better than the traditional bases. It’s shinier, easier to file, and looks better around my cuticles and such. I was super worried bc a few years back when gel really hit I would get mine done and had to give it up bc they would chip on me in like 2 days (my nail beds are super oily). Well I am not having this issue AT ALL with the kupa gel liquids and my dip powders. I have to pour it over my nail instead of dip and I got this little thing to help pour (unidoubt dip powder recycling tray). And I use binders to make it stay (Mia Secret xtra bond and their nail prep) and I’m having so much luck- it’s even staying on BETTER than the other liquids did with the traditional powder liquids. And best of all, no reaction whatsoever! Yeeeeet

Amy

11/27/2020 12:32:40 pm

Shonna - how is it going with your new system of doing dip powder? I am allergic to the other dip systems and would love to try KUPA system but I am understandably hesitant to invest more money. I am researching Kupa Inc.'s DipFinity system. The KUPA site indicates their product does not include cyanoacrylate. I cannot find if Kupa Inc.’s powders include methyl methacrylate (MMA) you discussed previously.

I would love to be able to do my nails and not suffer from dyshidrotic eczema on my hands as well as the "flu" (wheezing, coughing, headache, sneezing) that other dip powder products seem to be causing. I even purchased a full-face gas mask so I wouldn't inhale fumes and I am still getting the blisters, etc. on my hands as well as having breathing problems. All I can figure is that it is somehow absorbing the product through my nail bed even with the Dashing Diva nail guards.

As a side note, I also researched the following:

--Revel Nail. Their site indicates their product is nontoxic. I had Revel Nail send me their MSDS sheets for their products. Revel Nail’s dip powder is a methacrylate polymer.

--SNS. I noted that the SNS system does not contain methyl methacrylate (MMA).

--Quick Dip powder for the ASP system from Sally Beauty. Their powder has Polyethylmethacrylate.

I am curious to know the specific steps you follow when you use the Kupa gel liquid with the dip powders. Which dip powders are you using?

11/27/2020 01:13:14 pm

It’s going so great! I use all the same powders I used when I was getting deathly ill- including revel, BH, Nicole Diary— the powders aren’t the issue. I bought all my gel stuff from eBay and Amazon— got it all for pretty cheap. Mainly I just needed a gel top and base coat and a lamp. That’s all you gotta get for real! But the tray I bought for pouring the powders is also in my opinion essential (bc you can’t dip really with a gel base, it’s too movable)...so like maybe like $30-40 bucks total. But I’m extra so of course I bought a few different gel bases (one for glitters and one for non glitter just in case glitter gets on the brush, etc) in different brands bc some are a little too thick for my taste or the brush isn’t as controllable. So I spent more than $30-40, but totally not necessary! Kupa is the best gel base and top coat set though, based on my research and experience! And honestly it stays on better for me than the resin dip bases did!!!!!! I also got a nice bond and base primer tho and maybe that’s why the gel liquid is sticking so well and not lifting at all (whereas traditional gel with gel polishes rather than dips don’t stay on me at all, chips right away like within 3 days)... I do recommend getting at least the base primer (ph bond is just alcohol and acetone so you can literally make your own if you want). I mentioned the brand somewhere on the forum. I’m so pleased. Easier to control if you get sloppy bc you can literally wipe the gel off your skin/cuticle before you cure it under the lamp, it’s way shinier, just overall a better experience and no dip flu.. not even a little!

Shonna... again

11/27/2020 01:27:29 pm

Also, Amy, here is a girl that I watch her nail videos on a lot, in this one she does her dip powders with gel base and top coat/ UV lamp- step by step! That’s what I watched before I did mine! Here’s the link! You can use whatever gel base/ top coat you want (like how I used kupa) but I would make sure it’s a no wipe gel top coat (most of them are these days).

https://youtu.be/MdwYNhIklpU

Here’s another good video of the same thing, but with the tray I got! I watched this too before I did mine!
https://youtu.be/0qvIRqxm8AM

Hope this helps!

Amy Staiger

11/27/2020 02:43:08 pm

Thanks, Shonna, for your help and the video links.

If I understand correctly, I can purchase this pack Kupa TRIO Pack (https://kupainc.com/products/gel-trio-pack?variant=12805049319458) and also a LED lamp and I should be able to use any powders I already have?

This will be so great! I am excited to get it a try!

11/27/2020 04:36:04 pm

Yes, that is correct! You just need a lamp! Mine is 120w and it works great, got off Amazon! I think I read somewhere as long as it’s 45w or more it will cure all gels...you should be good to go! Higher the wattage, less the curing time in theory, but I get the feeling it doesn’t actually matter that much how high the wattage is! As long as it’s more than 45ish! Have fun!

12/9/2020 04:35:35 pm

Just wanted to follow up and let you know that I am trying the Kupa GelFinity base coat and top coat with a more generic brand dip powder and it is working great! No sinus congestion and no coughing, wheezing, or sneezing. And, no blisters on my hands! Will try it again in a few weeks to see if there is still no allergic reaction.

Andrea F

11/24/2020 07:56:42 pm

Wow! Very detailed and super helpful !! I am new to dips but I did my 4th manicure since starting and just realized I am suffering from this dip flu mess. I am hopeful with your suggestions of using gel binders with dip powders! Thanks for the guidance.

Revi

12/19/2020 05:30:41 pm

Oh god! I thought I was the only one that goes through this. I’ve been using lavender violets brand, and the first few times did not cause any reaction, but the last 6 or 7 times, the same symptoms appear. My throat is itchy, my lungs fill with fluid, and it feel like they are getting smaller and I can’t breath. Coughing and sneezing like crazy. It can last from one day to three, and I am really frustrated. I tried using a mask (two on too of each other), taking Benadryl before and after, and keep my face away (as much as possible)... nothing helps. I’m at loss... do I really have to wear full face protection gear for the entire process?! How uncomfortable is that?!

12/21/2020 02:40:07 pm

Hi Revi. Sorry you're dealing with. :( If you're having these symptoms you probably will need to wear a full face mask, or one that covers your mouth and nose and has a rubber gasket to keep the seal. It's not comfortable and it is (for me) a bit hard to see over the mask, but it lets you do your nails at home. I have been suggesting to people that they really take a look at swapping to the UV gel method outlined in the post so you can keep your powders but get rid of the binders (which many of us think are causing the issue). That way you can have the pretty nails, but you don't have to worry about masking up. We've got enough of that in our lives already. :) I hope this helps.

1/1/2021 01:02:33 pm

Hi Revi. I am sorry you are experiencing these frustrations. I had the same thing happen to me. Therefore I have changed to doing a gel/dip powder combo using Kupa GelFinity brand top coat and base coat with the dip powder of choice "sandwiched" in between.
See my posts above from late November/December 2020. I have had no allergic reactions using this approach. It would be interesting to know if others experience the same relief when using Kupa GelFinity and the gel/dip powder method.

Laura Lewark

1/13/2021 03:10:23 pm

This is crazy. Due to COVID, I initially thought I had contracted the virus but not all the symptoms matched except the extreme shortness of breath. Many times my nose felt completely closed and restricted and the only way to breath was through my mouth. I had done Peppigel due to the virus and hated my nails without something on them. I began experiencing symptoms in November. I tested negative for COVID. Then thought I had a severe sinus infection. Something I've never had. My nose is so full of mucus and I sneeze constantly. I've never had breathing issues. I've read some of your responses and similarities. I'm bummed as I have about 10 different colors. Haven't even applied the pink and white yet! Any suggestions to still use the powder without the binding agents?

Umm

1/14/2021 12:37:45 am

There are several comments discussing this... use gel bases is one way that is discussed on this forum to still use your powders and not use resin bases that yield a reaction.

Nicole

1/16/2021 07:23:17 am

Thank you so much for your experience and information!! To echo everyone’s comments, I too had reactions both times using Peppi Gel this week and they were back to back reactions for me because I did 1 hand on Sunday and the next on Tuesday (Monday felt horrible). So to say the least, I had it bad being that the reactions were so close to each other!! I also echo everyone’s experience about thinking it was COVID and doing research on the “gel flu”.

I know we’re not doctors, but can anyone validate my dry cough that comes and goes now that it is a few days later!? It’s now Saturday and I’m still a little congested with a random dry cough.

Also, Peppi gel has a page on their website that talks about those chemicals EMA & MMA and mentions it’s not in their products 🤔 I also noticed that on their product page where you purchase their items, there’s no drop down menu or information anywhere on their ingredients. I just feel like these companies should be held accountable. I spent over $100 and I threw everything out.

https://www.peppigel.com/pages/nail-dipping-powder

1/16/2021 07:40:34 am

I haven't thrown everything out yet. I'm going to try the gel bonding agents with the powder and see how that goes although I'm very hesitant as it's been over a week since my last application and my symptoms are less but still constant runny nose.

1/16/2021 08:54:46 am

Thank you for responding Laura!! Oh my over a week!? Ugh. I still have the urge to cough just trying not to 😆 I really hope you feel better ASAP and good luck with trying the gel bonding agents! I can see why you feel hesitant, hopefully it doesn’t cause any reactions! I still can’t believe this. 🤦🏻‍♀️

1/16/2021 09:55:43 am

Hi Nicole. I would say my symptoms of cough, allergic eczema, headaches, sneezing, etc. It took at least 6 weeks or more from the last time I used the methyl methacrylate (MMA) products before I saw relief. I have had no such symptoms using the GelFinity top and base coat with the powder sandwiched in between.

1/16/2021 11:00:44 am

Hi Amy thank you for replying!! O M G 6 weeks!? I’m at a few days and I’m like 😡😠😡 I hope you’re feeling better now that those weeks have passed!! That’s so great the gels are working for you now with no reactions. I got a little neurotic this week & didn’t even put nail polish on after my mani @ the salon 😆😆😆

Erin

1/28/2021 02:52:19 pm

Thank you for posting this, the update and all the comments! I thought I had a bad cold the first time it happened to me. then this week when it happened again, i thought it was the dust and powder particles. Reading through all this I realize its a much more serious issue with the chemicals! This time is worse than the first one but I am treating it with the right meds now.

All this in the time of covid makes me and my whole family worry I have covid. It's not worth it to me to keep using these products.

Curious what brands people are using? I used Revel and their website and ingredients don't list MMA

1/28/2021 02:59:41 pm

I was using Peppi Gel. I removed all Peppi products last week and applied a gel polish with a gel top coat. No reaction. My runny nose is gone and my nasal passages are clear. I haven't decided what direction I may go at this point. I have read that you can use the powder with gel products as it is the binding agents that cause the reaction. I'm just not sure it is worth the risk. I did purchase the nail guards as a precaution as well. I may go back to Color Street as I had no reaction at all.

Diana Wing

2/1/2021 01:26:15 pm

Hi there could you share an updated link for the masks the nail techs are wearing? I wasn’t able to locate it on Amazon.

2/1/2021 05:22:47 pm

Hi Diana. I can't find the exact one, but it's a multi layer mask, sort of like this - https://amzn.to/3apWvgv

Anne Stiles

2/4/2021 02:48:32 pm

Thank you so much for your post. My daughter has been doing her nails at home for a while now and every time she does them she gets sick. Congestion, coughing, asthma attack and I did not link it to her nails until yesterday when she did her nails and got sick again I decided to look it up and see if she could be allergic to the dip powder and products she is using. Your post was all I needed to see to confirm my suspicions and I had her read it as well and she is now convinced that this is a problem. We are going to use your suggestions and I can not thank you enough for the information and your post. Thank you again. God Bless!

Peggy P

2/6/2021 07:10:10 am

I am happy to say that I have successfully, with no side effects, used the CND gel system with LED/UV light and the Kiara Sky powders for the French Manicure. I still used a mask for protection from inhaling any powder as I have done with even acrylics.

Kat

2/7/2021 11:18:03 am

Hi Sheila, I had very bad reactions and also rashes on my face. I didn’t know it was related to the dip powder. I went to see a skin specialist (rare specialist in for skin allergies). He did a series of tests on my skin (because im also allergic to metals) and to my surprise found that I was allergic to acrylic found in nail products. He said this type of allergy gets worse over time. There is no solution other than to avoid the substance. When it is dried there is no issues but it’s when it can react with your skin or lungs (dry powder or liquid) that the issue arises. The way it was irritating my skin...if that’s how it irritates the lungs it is very concerning so I try to stay away. I am however tempted to try the gas method you proposed. Thank you for sharing

3/28/2021 07:09:32 pm

Hey Kat, I'm sorry I'm just responding to this. I wanted to say that if it's actually affecting your skin then the gas mask likely won't help. If it's contact dermatitis then it might be that you just have to switch methods and stop using those bonders. Maybe try the powder/gel method?

Sydnee

2/10/2021 12:01:33 pm

I bought a Peppi kit about a year and a half ago and have had a similar experience as so many of you. My first few peppicures were fine, but now my sinuses get so swollen for at least 36 hours after. I can't breathe through my nose for a day and a half after applying the dip. I've been considering investing in other dip liquids lately because I like feeling just that bit more put together with my nails done, but now it doesn't seem worth it. I think I'll invest in a gel and UV system so I can keep using some of my favorite powders. The US really needs better laws on what we allow in these types of products!!

2/10/2021 12:31:04 pm

I'll be trying a powder application with gel products this weekend. I'll post how it goes. I am open to hints or tips as well if anyone has done so and would like to share.

3/28/2021 07:07:34 pm

I have heard many of the posters say it worked great for them to use the powder/gel method. Let us know how it goes if you give it a shot.

Marsha Gerace

3/28/2021 02:09:11 am

I just starting using the Revel Dip system around the beginning of February 2021 and LOVE IT. Indestructible nails! However, I’ve had non-allergic rhinitis most of my life—with spring & fall being the worst—so it took me a few weeks to realize that the liquids were a problem. Since I suffer with these symptoms all the time, and never know exactly what is causing it at any given time (weather changes are bad, humidity changes, etc.), it took me a few weeks to figure this out. I’ve had 2 sinus surgeries and live on Sudafed®, Xzyl, Benadryl, and nasal irrigation, etc. I’m having another procedure in 2 weeks that is fairly new. I’m going to be using the gel liquids with the powder from now on, hopefully, without issue. I can certainly sympathize with everyone who has experienced this, but consider yourselves lucky!!! You figured out the cause and only had symptoms for a short period of time!!! Imagine feeling like that 24/7 for most of your life. Thanks for all the info about this and getting the word out! I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.

Katherine

3/28/2021 06:58:28 pm

I’ve been dipping at home for a year, and have developed a contact dermatitis reaction to, I’m 99% sure, the base/top coats :( My nose does get a bit runny and last time my eyes burned if I got my face too close, but my real issues was itch fingers & swollen/irritated cuticles. Has any one gone back to getting dip powder done at the salon and been okay? I’m not ready to completely give up my manis (especially since I’ve spent so much money in powders) but now I’m scared to try the salon after how bad my reaction was. Ugh!

3/28/2021 07:06:46 pm

Hi Katherine. I went back to the salon after dipping at home (I shattered my elbow and had to go through a ton of PT) and was fine in the salon.

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